Saturday, May 23, 2009

Tao Te Ching Chapter 2-12 Don't stay


Today's Tao


Though his great tasks are accomplished, he does not stay there. (Ch.2)


What is "accomplishment" anyway?

The sage knows everything takes place in his hologram.

Whether you are successful or not, you are a movie star in your hologram.

Would you like to stay in your movie forever, though?


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4 comments:

Alkinoos said...

Hello,

mr. Matsumoto thank you very much for your effort.


Aristotle also said :

" To those who approached even slightly the Pure, seems folly to seek glory and honour ".

" Pure " is a translation for the greek word " Ἀγαθόν ", that was the word with the same meaning as " Tao " in chinese.

NaotoMatsumoto said...

Hello, how are you?

Thank you for your information, Mr Alkinoos-san. It is useful for many readers. I am sure they are the same being with two different names.

Naoto Matsumoto

Alkinoos said...

Hello,

I'm fine, you ?



I also think that these sages spoke similar words.



Wisdom is one.



About the same time in which the teaching of Tao was flourishing in China, Pythagoras was teaching to his famous " Ὀμακοεῖον ", (Omakoeion), theology, mathematics and medicine.
Important similarities with the teaching of Lao Tzu, we can find to the cosmogony of the first Ions philosophers.

Anaksagoras told about the intervention of a higher foundation, which moves the matter and determines its changes.


Heracleitos , whose famous saying " Τὰ πάντα ῥεῖ " ( everything flows ) comes in complete harmony near Lao Tzu's about the perpetual change of things, has reference directly to his Oriental banqueter:

" The hidden harmony is more powerful than the one we can see ",
" It's not the best for the people, their desires to be fulfilled ",
" Even more than fire one should extinguish arrogance ",
" Cold things get hotter, hot get colder, humids dry, dry things humify ",
" erudition does not lead to a deeper understanding of things ".

Aristotle said : " Guide for all the other sciences is Wisdom for Wisdom knows the end, the purpose everything is done; that is for the good of itself and the good for all the Nature."

Aristotle, to his book "Μετὰ τὰ Φυσικά", ( Meta ta Physica), "After the Physics", comes to the conclusion that we should study the interdependence of the opposites, that is also the foundation of Taoism, as far as I know.



Plato said that our Spirit (Kokkoro, not the brain) preexists compared to the body.
By the time that enters our body gives us life and we forget the Pure , the Tao, the world in which our Spirit belonged before the birth and we are fooled that the products of our senses is the truth.
Goal of our life is to remember again Tao so we can be free.
That is why life has the maximum importance and meaning, Plato speaks about the anamnisis of the Being that our Spirit had met and the simultaneous realization of the one and only Truth.



Someone may wonder : "Aristotle and the Greek sages lived in the Western world, why don't we have in the occidental world, their influence to our lives?"
Because when we speak about: a) the civilization that Aristotle brought and after centuries was mixed with Christianity and continued until the fall of the new Rome, Constantinoupolis, to the barbarian conquerors and b) the western civilization as we know it from Renaissance until now, we speak about two different civilizations.
Concerning before and after Renaissance, the understanding of the ancient sages and exegesis (explanation) of Christianity by the westerners were really shallow.

We speak about two different civilizations, two different ways of living.


Plato said : "The Pure is approached without mind".

Wisdom is one.

Alkinoos said...

(continued)

Plato said that our Spirit (Kokkoro, not the brain) preexists compared to the body.
By the time that enters our body gives us life and we forget the Pure , the Tao, the world in which our Spirit belonged before the birth and we are fooled that the products of our senses is the truth.
Goal of our life is to remember again Tao so we can be free.
That is why life has the maximum importance and meaning, Plato speaks about the anamnisis of the Being that our Spirit had met and the simultaneous realization of the one and only Truth.



Someone may wonder : "Aristotle and the Greek sages lived in the Western world, why don't we have in the occidental world, their influence to our lives?"
Because when we speak about:
a) the civilization that Aristotle brought and after centuries was mixed with Christianity and continued until the fall of the new Rome, Constantinoupolis, to the barbarian conquerors and
b) the western civilization as we know it from Renaissance until now, we speak about two different civilizations.
Concerning before and after Renaissance, the understanding of the ancient sages and exegesis (explanation) of Christianity by the westerners were really shallow.

We speak about two different civilizations, two different ways of living.


Plato said : "The Pure is approached without mind".

Wisdom is one.